Just a side note: I could have gone into way more detail on the diference in drivers, price, weight, ex.. All of which play into why one series is better than another. Example: the JBL prx cabinets are using lower end transducers and drivers vs The JBL srx which are using the same driver technology found in their high end touring systems. Makes a huge difference in sound and how well the speakers can take advantage of the amplifier power available to them.Also this video was not meant to cover tour grade powered speakers: Such as RCF TT series, JBL VRX, or JBL Vertec. As these lines are very expensive and not really mobile DJ realm.
Watching this here in 2019 as I'm thinking about which speakers I will pick. Had my heart set one way for quite a while, but after lots of thought I decided I'd like the flexibility to be able to put speakers on poles for different positioning options. No Tektons, maybe someday because they just look so damn cool...
Disappointed I can't seem to find a "top" that will mount up on a pole that's a 3-way design though. If you know of one I'm missing let me know, but it seems like they stop putting pole mounts in them in the 3-ways.
Think I'm going to have to check out the Yamahogs though, those new DZR15's look like what I'm after to start with. Here's the reason I'm picking those over the JBL's, and it's one thing you didn't mention here in your video. How low it's rated to go bass wise. Looking at the Yamahas, they are rated 10dBs down at 34hz, just a couple DB's lower than the JBLs. But every DB counts when you're starting off without a sub. I wish manufacturers would list the 3db down frequency though, at 10db down you're really not hearing that frequency much anyways. I also like how the horn can be rotated depending on which way you orient the cabinet. And it comes in at a hundred less for a pair, that is assuming I can get my hands on a pair. Still, a tough choice, they are pretty comparable otherwise.
Subwoofer I had picked out I scratched off the list too. For now at least, maybe down the line. Actually powering and putting a 24" sub into a box big enough to go as low as I'd planned (20hz) is a daunting task and not really conducive to a mobile DJ. The box would be 20 cubic feet and roughly 300lbs. To fully power it I'd need a 240volt amp that pushes a clean 5000 watts down under 20hz, there is only one MFG I found that can do that and boy, you're going to pay. How many places are even going to have 240 volt power available? Decided to go a different route.
Check out JTR speakers sometime, I know them well from the Home Audio world, and they have a Pro Line of speakers and subs. I like the Captivator 218 Pro. What I really like about is is the 3db down at 27hz and 136 db spl. That's pretty much a full octave lower than anything I see by JBL, Yamaha, QSC or any other manufacturer I've come across yet. It has built-in casters and handles, way easier than lugging around what amounts to a refrigerator but way heavier. And I like the fact its hand built here in the US with US parts by a guy named Jeff. That's pretty cool to me, somewhere a Bald Eagle just screamed!
You keep saying 12" top, the compression driver would only be 1.5" or a 2" fitted on the throat of the horn, anyway mate when you say two 2 way speakers will cope with a 100 people, yes maybe in the warm up but once they get down to some serious dancing you going to need 2 additional 18" subs and maybe even more than that, I'm from the UK and DJ'd since 1975, I started off with top of the range JBL drivers in professionally built cabs it was a 3 way active system, 15" scoops, 10" midrange flares, 2" compression driver coupled to the horn, using a 3 way active crossover running three 2 channel amplifiers, as I wanted more power I eventually doubled up on that, its a pity I'm not able to show photo's, which I will point out to readers that it is only a 3 dB increase, nearly all the 'Powered loudspeakers' manufacturers would not fit their best bass drivers, you can get an increase of 3 dB by exchanging the driver to their top of range option, and you're probably thinking why don't they fit them, simple its all down to cost. When you blow your 15 or 18" driver look into an upgrade and pay the extra and you won't be disappointed. Use B&C, PD (Precision Devices UK) FANE or even Eminence an American brand.
I still gig these days but now gone 4 way with 21" subs, 18" bass, twin 10" mids and twin 1.5" compression drivers per side all PD, powered with 4 in number Yamaha 3 x P7000s & 1 x P5000s amps. It might seem over the top but its always best to have some headroom. Blue arran here in the UK have the largest selection of components available, look up their prices. You do get what you pay for.
Great vid man. Coming from a live sound perspective, nothing beats RCF. Especially their TT and NX series. It's a whole other ball game than JBL, EV, and QSC. A pair RCF nx series can do a crowd up to 800 easily. Alot of what you mentioned in the video you compared by watts, but we should really be comparing their SPL.
Dude again you have not build or construct a speaker cabinet from scratch. Ev,Qsc and alot of major speaker companies use the same woofers and components to build there speakers. The name of a speaker is what drives up the cost. All companies do this to save money. So if you know how a speaker is built and what parts are used you will know what to buy. Qsc started as Guitar amps. Cerwin vega started with pro folded horn subs for pro audio. EV started as pro Mics. So as companies grow they adapt and add new products like speakers. You can build a speaker with same parts for half the cost.
Thats a little true. But U still don't get it. Companies contract with a main manufacture for parts like over seas for example circuits,woofers and plate amps. Then build a custom circuit board or cross over to there own specs and design. The standard for making Subs is made with birch wood. It has a warmer sound and its 5/8 s or 3/4 in in thickness. Speaker cab's in General are design to the woofer not to the cabinet. Hard Plastic speakers are design for weight and size. Thats why they sound hollow no matter the size. So any big hall or gym will bounce the sound with any speaker. It dos not matter how much the speaker cabinet was, you will still get that effect. Its about balancing the sound to the venue. Ive seen Djs have the most expensive equipment. But don't know how to set up the sound or Eq the sound to the venue. So you need to do more research or make your own cabinets.
Build your own speakers, Im looking at Kicker speakers. Imagine a couple of Solo X 18's, or L7 15's. Internally powering them is the issue Im having not sure how to get 3,000 watts in a speaker cabinet. Doing research lol.
Have you ever thought about hearing these speakers before you buy them? The comparison by wattage in amplifier or speaker is the most useless thing! Everyone measure it differently faking it differently and to tell you what, the energy consumption? Oh my! You can see for instance the maximum SPL in DB if you are interesting how loud it can be, if of course tell you the trouth and still nobody can tell you how it sounds with numbers! HERE IT IN DIRECT COMPARISON ONLY! There too many aspects the watts are nothing, it's a big joke, see a cheap chinesse speaker with 20000 watts that consumes only 2-10 Ha Ha Ha. However i always prefer EV speakers over any JBL. JBL sounds too harsh EV sounds more Rock so i prefer Rock, nobody is perfect but they are toooooo close.
like this shit...simple and clear..i can find my way i m not an sound engineer but work on music as owner of a label production ,producing events,promoting events and renting company back line,instruments...just like DJ Rick WEB..THANK YOU,learn a lot touday
Hello Rick Wanna know your opinion about HK audio vs JBL and EV audio. I mean about audio quality and power. In your experience wich one offer best durability, power and quality audio for 200 people. I`m serching for a 12 or 15" driver and a 18" subwoofer. thanks
I dont get any special discount though. I get the best deal through Ben @ NLFX pro. Dealers an sell gear below msrp pricing. All speaker manufacturers are that way. They are not aloud to advertise there pricing but all dealers will cut you deals if you reach out to them. I normally contact NLFX and Canal Sound and Light and see who offers the best deal. I chose JBL since it's what I know and have used through the LLC.
I have herd and used both, in my opinion the jbl’s are just loud, the subs aren’t deep at all and the highs could be cleaner. On the other hand QSC is clean as hell, no distortion on highs and real deep bass.
DJ Rick Web Just my two cents (one year later from the original video post) i agree with you on the rankings (even here in Canada) i shopped for my speakers in 2016 and hesitated between the JBL and the QSC finaly deciding on the QSC KW serie due to their response with my music of choice (house and techno). I also tested the FBT as a friend of mine owns some and they're pretty good too. The EV and YORKVILLE ones did sound as powerfull but lacked in detail and transparency and i didn't like them as much as the others i've tested. I do dj, music production and mixdown / mastering for a living for years now so the views i express while certainly well informed apply mostly to the kind of music i play and produce (house and techno) and it might differ from someone playing other genres (pop or country music for example).
I realy appreciate your videos and i'm happy to see that your channel grow. Keep it up!! ;)
you obviously have not used or know much about a true american company PEAVEY they carry all of the systems you talked about in your video and in my own opinion PEAVEY is one of the better systems out there because they have a name of being a work horse in the area of sound systems for bands and DJ systems they are known for the Black Widow speakers and the Pro Rider speakers that are best known if you should push your system too far it is easily repaired with out having to replace the whole speaker and not costing you so much to do so in short a cheap easy fast fix if needed.
some might feel there are better but if your looking for a good dependable fair priced speakers PEAVEY is a good way to go
PEAVEY offers base systems but the RBN, Darkmatter, and SP, poweres series speakers are all good dependable speakers worth looking into
Nice video, three popular brands I can think ok off the top of my mind here in the states... I'm using the fairly new Peavey DM115 Mains and have had pretty good luck with them. I run them with a Mackie Thump 18s that I love the sound it produces. So with those 2 brands down could you guess that the third I'd throw out would be Yamaha. Have read great reviews on them and respect the brand. I went with the Peavey DM Series after much reading and research and was able to get a steal of a deal on them brand new as they wanted to move them after a less than anticipated response to the release date kept seeming to get knocked back and a lack of push from Peavey after the release.
Just a personal opinion QSC KW series is very close if not same level of ETX Line. Definitely not at the same level as the K Series. That’s why it’s two different series. Specially when using KW153 and KW181 together very difficult to beat with the other lines
I was wondering the same thing with this video, and his 'beginner' series dj speakers video. I have two CVE12 tops and two CVE18 subs for my setup, and theyre amazing. The CVX line could hang with everything mentioned here, and has a 21" subwoofer option.
Qsc Rcf or YORKVILLE. Idk what you talking about some JBL. Your a Jbl dealer and this is no honest review. Qsc k.2 would smoke those JBLs. Your going by paper readings have you ever played them before ?
I am not a JBL dealer actually. I have no affiliate with any brands. And I have demoed every speaker I listed. Including your k.2s and they dont blow away JBL sorry. Demoed in person both to the ear and live db readings proved it. The owner of the k.2s that I demoed with was shocked as well. Also I am getting either Martin or RCF in the near future to back up that I am not affiliated.
Y'all out there if you do live sound 🔉 reinforcement Vs DJ , Huge difference-maker. Compressed music (DJ) VS live sound 🔉 (actual frecuency cust and responses) GO FOR THE KW. SERIES WILL SERVE BEST IN DJ ENVIRONMENT AND LIVE SOUND 🔉 REINFORCEMENT
As far as top powered speaker's go the Chinese manufacturers that make these can make a" Rick Webb Signature" Speaker Line rather easily. This is about marketing now days. All of these new high tech speakers sound great. Some sound inherently different but still good.
I like how much you love JBL. I made my living with JBL Altec Peavey EV when they were made in America. If you want to really want compare apples to oranges: 3000Watts Digital Peak Power = 200/300 True sine wave RMS WATTS compared to how a Class A/B Amplifiers perform on the job.
As many have mentionned, Yamaha and Yorkville should be in there, or rename the video The top DJ speakers I've used lol. The JBL PRX are good boxes, but I've always found them a little too forward in the midrange overall. Good for getting vocals out there I guess, but I prefer a smoother ear pleasing sound. Yamaha DXR15s or DSR115s Or Yorkville Parasource 12s or 15s are excellent in that regard. RCF also has some amzing sounding products other than Evox. Good videos, keep it up.
Ok i hope you can answer this when you do have time. I know your busy. Been following you for along time and know your a fan of the jbl speaker line. Just 3 questions. Is there a big difference between 15" to 18" subs? Jbl 618s vs jbl prx418s. Which do u prefer? Jbl vs ev elx118. I trust your judgement. Been djing for 3 years now (mobile) now im looking for something more top shelf vs when i started something that just got me started. Thanks so much for your feedback.
A few other comments mention peak power vs RMS and looking at power (peak or RMS) as the holy grail. Then to take a power level and attempt to extrapolate that data into a certain number of people is ludicrous too. This is what happens when a person is giving a review based on "what they have heard" vs what they haven't heard.
How about those of us that have actually used all of the products discussed and then a few dozen more to boot? Even *if* the larger JBL, QSC, and EV's discussed could handle a larger crowd, why would you not want more sound and use the volume knob vs running a smaller output system on kill?
Don't even get me started on the active vs passive argument.
Fact: I have taken an older Peavey CS-800 with 2 X CV INT-152, a dBx EQ and done multiple gigs OUTSIDE for the University of Michigan under a 90' X 120' tent. I have done the away team tailgates at football games for years. Never under 250 people, outside, the sound was crystal clear and I still had headroom. CS-800 = 240w at 8 ohms - stereo. A fraction of the power discussed here. It is efficiency and understanding sound.
If I were recommending an active set-up, I would use the JBL PRX815 or the Cerwin Vega CVX-15 for the tops. Then the matching subs JBL PRX818XLFW or the CV CVX-18s. Yes, they are expensive. Yes they have power. But if you understand sound and you can always turn it down, but when you're out, you're out.
i have two turbosound ix12 with a bass boss dual 18 powered sub woofer and i use them for bigger gigs and have no problems as my first setup i had two rockville powergig 12s with no sub woofer my new setup puts the old one to shame i highly recommend turbo sound powered speakers
Thank you Rick for this nice video :)
I need your advice, I'm searching for whole speakers set for a big outdoor event , I don't need few speakers with top power (high watt)
I'm searching for high no. of speakers with low watt , so sound can be distributed & clear anywhere. Which speaker model & optimum watt do you recommend if I'm planning to have 24 speakers ?
I choose the ETX 12p over the JBL due to my personal preferences and I thought the EV’s had a little more clarity at higher volume. But it’s all about personal preference and what you’re using them for
Sam Santandera I agree I spent a hour deciding which speakers to get. EV or JBL, after hearing a clearer sound for several songs I went EV etx line, I got 6 mains 12in. And 2 18in. Subs .i've DJed outdoor events and bands played live with my set up for 600 to 900 people , sounded great, I think I was pushing them really hard but 4 to 5 years later and tons of compliments on how great it sounds from wedding's, partys and running sound for bands with them. I think I picked a great brand. My opinion tho
Hey there! Dj Rick Web, I just wonder why the kw series from QSC is not at the pro level for you. Those speakers have Amplifiers rated at the same power that the JBL SRX and the EV ETX and also they are rated at a very similar SPL output (I think it is a 1db diference aprox). I've heard that they deliver a little bit les powerfull bass sound in the subs but they work better in hot environments and long gigs as they don't turn off due to the thermal protection. Are they not loud enough? Or why dont you consider them as pro level dj speakers? The thing is that I'm trying to decide between Ev etx, JBL srx and QSC Kw. I work as a Wedding Dj in Mexico and most of the gigs are outdoors (losts of air, lots of heat and lots of external noise). I would like to have your personal opinion because I've heard them all but not side to side and it is more dificult to compare them that way. Thanks a lot and keep up with those gig logs and tutorials. They are very usefull for everyone out there
DJ Rick Web, thanks for the answer bro, nice to have some feedback on that. And one more thing... due to the budget I have, I'm leaning towards a pair of KW153's and a pair of their respective subs. I haven't tested them or listened to them in a real dj gig (just live music which is quite diferent due to the noise of the mics) so I was wondering if that specific setup would be able to handle a mexican wedding for 200 to 300 people properly, or should I consider a pair of 122's as a reinforcement to the mentioned system? Here we do a lot of salsa and latin music called reggaeton (also some disco music, rock and roll and pop music you and I probably listened to when we were on elementary and junior high).
+69 Sound KW series as I say in the video is a 1000 watt rms amp vs the etx and Srx which are 1500 watt rms. As far as all goes, they might be similar on paper, but companies don't have a standardized way to measure spl. Aka the measurements can be inaccurate. You also have to consider technology and drivers. The KW is a 8 year old technology based speakers. The clarity and quality of the srx and etx drivers is more advanced and of the newest technology. The thermal issue is not a thing though. All speakers including the kw have thermal protection. And given that all 3 series have fans to cool there amps they should all preform similarly in hot environments.
MY opinions:QSC=very nice sound,deep bass...very good for weddings,a little bit too pricy JBL-lighweight and good for big rooms,very natural sound,big thumping bass..good for mobile DJs EV-clean and loud,lots of models,good for instalations and they look very good FBT-very good sound,natural and clean,lightweight and everything they has is amazing but they are too expensive(normaly worth the price) RCF-about the same as FBT but they has some cheaper models and they sound different...RCF speakers are good for bands and outfoor events TURBOSOUND-very loud and ok sounding speakers for affordable price but maybe too heavy and subwoofers are not really that good but tops are amazing ALTO-good speakers for the price you can build awesome budget system YAMAHA-very loud and goof sounding but they are very loosing in sound from big distances and outdoors....that are just my opinions about different speaker brands that i somehow find out during the fifferent tests events and videos...sorry for my bad english im only 15 years old and im not from a country where is english speaken
+Appoddigare well im 16 now...i love speakers(they are my passion)and i go to a lot of gigs(dj-s,concerts,smaller events...)...i also work(summer kind of job-just for fun,not really for much money)at a sound company that has a lot of different speaker models (electro voice, yamaha, turbosound etc) and i also have my own sets of alto speakers that im very happy with and sometimes i do dj and sound events for up to 200 people. Im not that much about dj im more about sound and thats why i have some experiences,but all those were just my opinions about different speakers and what i think of them
Why the YAMAHA’S line up such as the DXR’s and DBR’s are not on your list? These Yamaha speakers are seriously amazing in terms of full sound without any distortions. I’ll take the Yamahas out all of the powered speakers you’ve mentioned.
Hi Rick, what speaker do you recommend? I have 1K sf space, approx. 100 people. I try to start DJ party for our small artists community in NYC. Also what do you think about Pioneer DJ DDJ-SB2 for starting, because my budget is not big. What site is good to download tracks?
Right Guys i have a events company and currently running the behringer b2015 pros but want to upgrade while downsizing now i have two speakers im interested in.
The QSC K8 series not the 8.2
or The TurboSound IQ8?
I have somewhat rectified the issue of poor sound quality by having a DBX DriveRack PA2 and my amplifier being the CVK PS4130 but on the weight, size and even how respected the brand is unfortunately behringer really doesn't have that on its side. Overrated, stupidly big and stupidly heavy
Need to find a quick easy way to also sell the behringers. they are currently posted on Gumtree. No point in craigslist for UK as no one knows it even exists and Ebay will take bloody all my money before ive sold them !
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